MALTA, part II - important prophecy fulfilled!

Discussion in 'The Signs of the Times' started by BrianK, Jan 18, 2017.

  1. Serena

    Serena Principalities

    Thanks!
     
  2. Frodo

    Frodo Archangels

    True enough, there is time to change until the last breath, but I don't like the way things are heading. In the back of my mind though I keep thinking about Marie Julie-Jahenny's prophecy of a pope that at the last minute will reverse his policies - but it will be too late. I'm not sure if this is the pope or not - but who better to fit this prophecy than Pope Francis?

     
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  3. Carol55

    Carol55 Ave Maria

    I knew that I read this somewhere but I was unable to remember who had stated it and therefore I could not relocate it. Thank you for posting it.
     
  4. Dolours

    Dolours Guest

    Cringe-worthy. I suppose it's too much to hope that the Blessed Sacrament wasn't in that tabernacle.
     
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  5. Frodo: "I keep thinking about Marie Julie-Jahenny's prophecy of a pope that at the last minute will reverse his policies - but it will be too late."

    Somewhat similar, in effect of such error at least, to a recent Luz de Maria message:

    The overthrow within the Church will be taken to its most extreme point, not without first leaving strong and deep traces in Humanity, which will have to be evangelized with maturity.
     
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  6. padraig

    padraig Powers

    If it walks like a duck and swims like a duck and quacks like a duck , you can be pretty sure the darn things a duck. It doesn't have to complicated, you don't have to tie yourself up in knots about it, it's a duck.

    You might not like it that its a duck.

    You may wish it to be pretending to be a duck.

    You may wish its only a duck for a while and going to change into something better.

    You may like to think some people have fooled it into being a duck .

    But it's a duck. That's why it quacks, walks and swims like a duck .

    The darn things a duck and that's that.


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  7. any name you wish

    any name you wish Archangels

    I'm increasingly afraid of that. If he doesn't do anything about Malta....
     
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  8. padraig

    padraig Powers

  9. padraig

    padraig Powers

    It's a duck
     
  10. AED

    AED Powers

    Yup. If you have to stretch and twist like a pretzel to somehow justify some heretical ideas and words and make painful adjustments and reinterpretations then that should be your sign that what you have heard or read or seen is a "duck"--simple. Nothing complicated. Occam's razor, right? The simplest explanation is the truest one.
     
  11. Fatima

    Fatima Powers

    This is where Pedro Regis is from.
     
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  12. SgCatholic

    SgCatholic Guest


    Luther Commemorated ?
    https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/vatican-gives-stamp-of-approval-to-martin-luther

    Aviso: Who Can allow this ? how a heretic can be commerated on a Vatican stamp and probably one of the worst heretic the Church never had, that's my question, if anyone has the reply, I'll be pleased to hear it, thank you.

    Me: Is anyone even surprised anymore with the antics of 'those' at the Vatican??

    Fatima, just want to say that in this particular instance, my reply had been in response to Aviso's post.
     
  13. BrianK

    BrianK Guest

    http://www.katholisches.info/2017/0...enn-sie-ehebrechern-die-kommunion-verweigern/

    via Google translate:

    Malta: Bishop threatens priests with suspension if they refuse admittance to the communion


    January 19, 2017

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    When the "joy" becomes compulsion, Bishop Grech threatens priests of his bishopric with suspension a divinis, if they should refuse to divulge the divorced divorced the Holy Communion. In the picture the cathedral of Gozo.
    (Rom / Valetta) The Laetitia melitensis , the "Maltese delight", assumes "ever more grotesque traits", according to Messa in latino .

    Firstly, the bishops of the island republic declared on 6 January that once again married divorced, appealing to the controversial post-synodal letter Amoris laetitia, the Holy Communion could not be denied if they concluded before their conscience "to be with God in peace" Even consider worthy. Bishop Mario Grech of Gozo, next to the archdiocese of Malta, the only diocese in the island, was even threatened by the priests of his diocese, a divinis , if they did not obey this precept and refuse to divorced divorced the Holy Communion. In turn, the "new mercy" emerges as an arbitrary constraint.

    The island of Malta, a European high-rise of catholicity, designated by Winston Churchill as "unsinkable aircraft carrier" by Winston Churchill in the Second World War, was an impregnable fortress for the protection of Europe in the early modern times under the leadership of the Maltese Order of Knights for the Turkish and North African Muslims , Is tapping from one church scandal to another.

    The individual decides whether he feels worthy
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    Bishop Mario Grech
    On 6 January, Archbishop Charles Scicluna and Bishop Grech presented " Criteria for the Application of the VIII Chapter of Amoris laetitia ". Chapter VIII represents the most controversial part of the "most catastrophic document" (Roberto de Mattei) for decades. The bishops break with the past ecclesiastical practice, the remarried divorced, who are permanent adulterers in the eyes of the Church, from the sacraments To be excluded. Although the Catechism of the Catholic Church is clear on the question, the two bishops clearly translate the ambiguous prescriptions of Pope Francis.

    It is clear that the individual conscience is raised to the last instance. If the individual believer, even if he is in the state of the grave sin, is of the personal opinion of being able to receive the Holy Communion, he should be able to do so. Scicluna and Grech are of the firm conviction that it is exactly what Pope Francis aims with Amoris laetitia .Critics replied horrified that this was an episcopal call to the sacrilege, for whoever unworthily receives the Holy Communion, "eat the judgment," as the Apostle Paul writes in the First Epistle to the Corinthians.

    Bishop Grech returned undisturbed during these days from a visit from Rome and made The Criteria also known in his diocese of Gozo. In so doing, as he evidently felt he had strengthened his back through Rome, he went even further. He threatened the priests of his bishopric to "prohibit the massacre when they do not support the directives of Amoris laetitia , which he wrote with Bishop Scicluna." On the basis of the non-observance of the new "criteria" in the bishopric of Gozo the suspension is a divinisfor priests.

    Laetitia melitensis : when "joy" becomes compulsion
    Priests, who thus adhere to the everlasting pastoral practice of the Church, are threatened with suspension by their own bishop, and all in the name of the "new mercy" of Amoris laetitia . Laetitia melitensis is not exposed as a "joy" by the threat of Bishop Grech, but as a compulsion; As a compulsion to the past pastoral practice and doctrine, for this compulsion, without doubt, implies a factual change in doctrine, and this is not only a matter of the Ehesakrament, but far more radical and fundamental.

    Messa in latino commented:

    "Even though a canonical threat of this kind appears to be immeasurable (even if its implementation seems possible in view of the prevailing confusion), it is far more serious that such a hyperbolic threat comes from the mouth of a diocesan bishop and is contrary to fidelity to the word of Jesus and And the disobedience to heretical directives. "

    Text: Giuseppe Nardi
    Image: Wikicommons / Youtube
     
  14. Fatima

    Fatima Powers

    How can this be when they stated they must interview, counsel and then determine after this whether they can receive? So what if in good faith the priest does everything that Pope Francis and the Malta Bishops said the local pastor must do in order to distribute communion and then he determines their circumstances do not allow for communion. Do they get suspended for upholding Christ and his Churches unchanging doctrine?

    If those who have hung with these erroneous new teachings of Pope Francis and now bishops don't see what is happening, God help you, cause you are in support of many sacraligious communions.
     
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  15. BrianK

    BrianK Guest

    I would certainly be weeping - or leaving - if I were a priest from Malta.

    Blessed Anne Catherine Emmerich’s Prophecies

    Blessed Anne Catherine Emmerich (d. 1824) was a mystic and stigmatist. She was beatified in 2004.

    April 12, 1820
    “I had another vision of the great tribulation. It seems to me that a concession was demanded from the clergy which could not be granted. I saw many older priests, especially one, who wept bitterly. A few younger ones were also weeping. But others, and the lukewarm among them, readily did what was demanded. It was as if people were splitting into two camps…”
     
  16. BrianK

    BrianK Guest

    Confirmation..


    http://www.churchmilitant.com/news/...-who-refuse-holy-communion-to-civilly-remarri

    Malta Bishop Threatens to Suspend Priests Who Refuse Communion to Civilly Remarried
    News: World News
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    Cdl. Burke: Priests "must refuse and face the consequences"

    GOZO, Malta (ChurchMilitant.com) - Malta's priests will be the first clerics to ever face suspension for refusing Holy Communion to divorced Catholics who have remarried outside the Church.

    Bishop Mario Grech of the diocese of Gozo, Malta, is saying he will strip all priests of their priestly faculties who do not follow his new guidelines, claiming he is following the directives of the papal exhortation Amoris Laetitia. He reportedly has taken this severe position on returning this week from his visit to Rome. According to the German press, Bp. Grech threatened his priests with suspension a divinis if they refuse to comply.

    The guidelines Bp. Grech co-published on January 8 with Abp. Charles Scicluna of Malta's archdiocese read, "If ... a separated or divorced person who is living in a new relationship manages ... to acknowledge and believe that he or she is at peace with God, he or she can not be precluded from participating in the sacraments of Reconciliation and the Eucharist."

    The focus of Malta's guidelines are on the consciences of the civilly remarried who come forward at Mass to receive the Eucharist. No mention is made of the priest's conscience who is attempting to follow Church law as contained in the Code of Canon Law.

    Canon 915 mandates that those who are "obstinately persevering in manifest grave sin are not to be admitted to Holy Communion." This judgment is based on the couple's objective situation, called the external forum, and is completely independent of their subjective feeling of guilt, which is part of what's called the internal forum.

    An experienced canonist, Dr. Ed Peters, recently emphasized that priests are commanded by Holy Mother Church to follow this canon and not admit to Holy Communion couples who publicly live in a state of objective mortal sin:

    In administering Holy Communion to a member of the faithful, Roman Catholic ministers are bound not by guidelines supposedly fashioned from a single, ambiguous and highly controverted papal document but instead by the plain and dispositive text of another papal document, called the Code of Canon Law (especially Canon 915 thereof), and by the common and constant interpretation accorded such norms over the centuries.

    I n an interview last May, Cdl. Raymond Burke, patron of the Knights of Malta, called it a "grave injustice" for bishops to order their priests to do this very thing which in conscience they couldn't do.

    "If someone tells the priest that he has to do these things, he simply must refuse and face the consequences," he said.

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  17. Praetorian

    Praetorian Powers

    Here it comes...
    The first priest to stand up and say "I will not..."
    Will he become a spiritual martyr in the battle?
     
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  18. BrianK

    BrianK Guest

    I foresee the faithful taking in such priests and them providing the sacraments for the underground Church - in the not-too-distant future.
     
  19. SgCatholic

    SgCatholic Guest

    Prophecy is unfolding before our eyes.
    Buckle up and bend our knees in prayer.
     
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  20. Fatima

    Fatima Powers

    Could a bishop take away their ability to say mass?
     

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