The Era of Peace & Living in the Divine Will

Discussion in 'The mystical and Paranormal' started by Fatima, Nov 7, 2017.

  1. Luan Ribeiro

    Luan Ribeiro Powers

    I believe that the apostasy predicted in the third secret was partially fulfilled after Vatican II however I believe that we will still have more changes in the Church that will be the full realization of the prophecy
     
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  2. Fatima

    Fatima Powers

    I think the apostasy started, as the message to Verne indicated, well before Vatican II by the Freemason's who had already infiltrated the Church and they were able to spin teachings after Vatican II to modernize various aspects of the Church throughout the world. I recall being in about 2nd grade during Vatican II and by the time I was in 5th grade most of the nun's had left our Catholic school and the few that were left cut off about 20" of their long habbits and their veil came off their foreheads and half way back on their heads. I thought it to be very odd at the time, but had no clue what was going on. A few years later the school closed for lack of nuns. About 80% of the nuns left the teaching orders. Probably just as well, as had I continued to go to a Catholic school back then my faith would have been all sucked out of me with liberalism.
     
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  3. AED

    AED Powers

    Fatima I think you are right. The worm was gnawing away at the Church from at least the 1800’s as Our Lady of LaSalette indicates. And probably since the Enlightenment but it reached critical mass in the VII era. I remember those days well. It was like an evil spell. One day there was the Church and nuns and priests and coherent consistent doctrine and the beautiful Mass. and then something awful something distorted something askew. Yet lots of cheerleading. This is great this is the people of God. No more cross. We are the Resurrection. Yada yada yada. And schools closed and seminaries closed and convents closed and retreat centers closed......
    But it had been introduced like a deadly virus centuries before.
     
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  4. lynnfiat

    lynnfiat Fiat Voluntas Tua

    I am off to Mass right now, but when I return, God willing, I will post what Pope St. JP II said in his book, "Crossing the Threshold of Hope" regarding the Second Vatican Council. If you have the book, it is on page 156 - "The Church and the Council". Basically, it echos what Jesus told Verne.
    I picked up the book yesterday to re-read it, and just this morning went to what Fatima posted from Verne's messages which I hadn't read until now! Incredible how Our Lord works!
     
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  5. Mario

    Mario Powers

    I look forward to what you share, Lynne. I think it would behoove us to read pp.156-176 to obtain the full extent of St. JP II's thought on the Council and its ramifications.:cool::)

    Safe in the Barque of Peter!
     
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  6. lynnfiat

    lynnfiat Fiat Voluntas Tua

    I agree! In fact, perhaps everyone interested should read his entire book - it is a treasure!
     
  7. lynnfiat

    lynnfiat Fiat Voluntas Tua

    "You are certainly aware that there has not been, nor is there presently, a lack of people who claim that if we take a close look at the years which followed the Second Vatican Council, the doors which the Council threw open ended up allowing those who were 'inside' the Church to exit, rather than for those who were 'outside' to enter. There are those who do not hesitate to voice concern about the situation of the Church, claiming that its unity of faith and govenment is not as strong as it was, but rather, is threatened by divisive forces. Allow me once more to disagree with such a way of looking at things. What I have said up to this point leads me to have, regarding this issue, a different opinion from the people you mention. My opinion is based on faith in the Holy Spirit who guides the Church, and also from a careful observation of the facts. The Second Vatican Council was a great gift to the Church, to all those who took part in it, to the entire human family, and to each of us individually."

    "The Council was a great experience of the Church; it was - as we said at the time- the 'seminary of the Holy Spirit."

    "Even the fact that those men were called together by the Holy Spirit and formed, during the Council, a special community that listened together, prayed together, thought and created together, has a fundamental importance for evangelization, for the new evangelization, which originated precisely at the Second Vatican Council. All of this is closely linked to a new era in the history of humanity and in the history of the Church."

    The above quotes from his book confirms what Verne was told about the Second Vatican Council. There are other confirmations, but you can find them all answered in "Crossing the Threshold of Hope".

    We have recourse to a great Saint (Pope J.P II), loved very much by Our Blessed Mother as told to us by Fr Gobbi, and we should ask him to intercede for Pope Francis and our Holy Catholic Church to remain faithful, holy and fruitful! Lynne
     
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  8. lynnfiat

    lynnfiat Fiat Voluntas Tua

    More tomorrow or when time permits.
     
  9. Fatima

    Fatima Powers

    Thanks Lynn. Interesting, the more the messages in the book God Speaks Will You Listen are brought to light, the more I am seeing where saints have reiterated the same information. I am convinced that God has spoken all we need to know through his prophets, his messengers for our times. A reaffirmation and clarity of scripture and church history.
     
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  10. lynnfiat

    lynnfiat Fiat Voluntas Tua

    Jesus to Verne: A council or a Pope who destroys and denies my mass and my Blessed Mother’s privileges is from hell. This is how you can recognize the abomination of desolation. A false prophet or anti pope will proclaim the protestant doctrine of the mass to be correct. This is the one teaching that will change. The rest of my churches teachings can stay the same. Satan knows how to deprive my children of everlasting life, deprive my children of my presence. This is how the man of sin, the son of perdition will sit in the temple of God.

    Fr. Gobbi, MMP #485u - "The Sacrifice of the Mass renews that which was accomplished by Jesus on Calvary. By accepting the Protestant doctrine, people will hold that the Mass is not a sacrifice, but only a sacred meal, that is to say, a remembrance of that which Jesus did at his Last Supper. And thus, the celebration of Holy Mass will be suppressed. In this abolition of he daily Sacrifice consists the horrible sacrilege accomplished by the Antichrist, which will last about three and a half years, namely, one thousand two hundred and ninety days."

    The End Times, Maria Valtorta: "The last time of three years and six months will be more awful than what mankind ever experienced. Satan shall be inflamed with utmost spite, because even the split between the two branches of God's people will be over, and with it the cause of so many material, moral and spiritual evils, satan, through his son shall use his absolute, ultimate wiles to harm, ruin, kill Christ within hearts and kill hearts belonging to Christ." "Then the time shall come when, crushed to an extent never reached before, the Church is no longer free to celebrate the perpetual Sacrifice, and the abomination of desolation shall be lifted up on the Holy Place and on the holy places, just as the prophets have said and I have repeated, I who make no mistakes.
     
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  11. lynnfiat

    lynnfiat Fiat Voluntas Tua

  12. Carol55

    Carol55 Ave Maria

    Lynne, Thank you for posting this! I will be watching it today.

    I thought of a question for you, I know that Tom Fahy is knowledgeable about Luisa Piccarreta and the Divine Will, I recently read that Daniel O'Connor was giving this talk, are there many people that you know of besides yourself, Tom and Daniel who are familiar with Luisa's prophecies? Thank you
     
  13. padraig

    padraig Powers

    Forgive me for going of course a little Lynn. But today was the Feast of the Presentation of Our Lady and the Holy young priest at mass said something pertaining to Our Lady and the Divine Will which certainly caught my attention. (I don;t think he understood the implication of what he was saying, fully)

    The Gospel today concerned:

    http://www.catholic.org/news/hf/faith/story.php?id=43754

    Matthew 12:50

    Jesus' Mother and Brothers
    …49Pointing to His disciples, He said, “Here are My mother and My brothers. 50For whoever does the will of My Father in heaven is My brother and sister and mother.”

    The priest commented that by saying this Jesus was not pulling Mary down to our level but raising her up as an example

    As one who perfectly did and does the Will of the Father.

    It just seems to be a wonderful example of living in the Divine Will.

    he also has it by tradition that Mary was born in Jerusalem near the Temple/ Mount and the Church of St Ann's has been raised on the spot.

    I never knew this.



     
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  14. Fatima

    Fatima Powers

    For Jesus himself giving us the Lord's Prayer, it is amazing so few today in the Church realize that "thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven" is not understood as the Era of Peace that our Lady of Fatima foretold, the 1000 year rest within scripture.
     
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  15. Fatima

    Fatima Powers

    Lynn, thanks for bringing up Maria Valtota's message on the abomination of desolation. It surely fits within other credible prophecy for our times. Hopefully others can see that Pope Francis has opened the doors to this profanation by celebrating the worst event in the Church history, which is Luther's revolt upon the one true church founded by Jesus Christ himself and it truly brings closer the period of the Antichrist and False Prophet (or anti-pope) who will fulfill what has already began.
     
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  16. lynnfiat

    lynnfiat Fiat Voluntas Tua

    So happy to hear that your Priest gave a good Homily on this beautiful Feast day of The Presentation of Our Lady. Sadly, we heard a Homily from our Pastor on
    ("Pointing to His disciples, He said, “Here are My mother and My brothers. For whoever does the will of My Father in heaven is My brother and sister and mother.”) - he said that Mary was afraid that Jesus was saying something to the people that would get Him in trouble which is the reason she went to the Temple. Very sad!!! He certainly know nothing about living in the Divine Will as your holy Priest obviously does. God bless you and God bless your Priest!
     
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  17. Fatima

    Fatima Powers

    This message was one of the earlier messages Verne received in his journey from Protestantism and Satanism and as you can see God is admonishing him a bit for following half truths of other Christian denominations.

    10/28/06 A.M.
    As I was praying at the adoration chapel some thoughts came to me from Jesus. My child I ask you who is here in front of you? It is I, Jesus Christ, present Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity, creator of the universe. Where and why would you go elsewhere to worship me? You have a tendency to search and read the teachings of other so- called prophets. Remember a true prophet teaches 100%of my truth no error. If you compare any messages and teachings with my Holy word and my church and they are not in agreement, then that teaching is not from the Holy Trinity. God is not the author of confusion. I am the way, the truth and the life, no man cometh to the Father but by me. No one enters heaven without embracing all my truth. There will be no schisms or fighting in heaven. Everyone in heaven knows the truth. Do you realize one of the worst events in the history of the world was the protestant reformation. For it caused division in my church.

    Here is an example. If you plant a seed and do not water it, it will not grow. But if you water it, it will germinate and in the midst of a garden of flowers a weed can sprout. Many weeds can destroy gardens. So it is with my church. The author of confusion, Satan, spread doubts in my priests, like Martin Luther. Instead of rebuking these doubts, he let Satan water his doubts, weeds grew,and confusion and schism came in my church. This was not my will. Let me ask you a question. How much truth do you want? 100%, 50% or 25%? Anything less then 100% of my truth will cause confusion. There is only one source of truth in the universe, the Holy Trinity. Anything else comes from Satan. Here is a rebuke to you. When you read and study protestant ministers and prophets, who do not teach 100% of my truth, where is there source of truth coming from? It is not from Jesus. It is from their own imagination or Satan.

    Remember Satan loves to sow confusion. He is infinitely smarter than humans and he knows the truth. His goal is to deceive mankind. When you read a prophet who denies my church, blasphemes my blessed mother, and profanes my Eucharist, why listen to that prophet, for that teaching comes from one place, the pit of hell. That is not to say I do not work through protestant ministers, because any words of mine are truth. I desire all men to be saved. But many are held in ignorance of not their own fault. But you are different. You have been presented with the whole truth. So why allow doubt and confusion to arise in your mind? If you allow Satan a small seed of doubt, he can make it grow and cause you confusion and even loss of faith. Remember you will be held accountable on the day of judgment to a higher standard for you have the fullness of truth found in the Catholic church. Reference I Corinthians 10:12 and especially for your days Matthew 24:24, "For there shall arise false Christs and false prophets and shall shew great signs and wonders, insomuch as to deceive (if possible) even the elect."

    As the days get darker, if you do not know your faith and completely trust in me, you will easily fall away. As evil increases the deception increases. Do not listen to every person's predictions of the future. Remember my primary purpose is the salvation of souls. All events will work out for that purpose according to my will and no one else's. You have a choice: follow false teachers, those who teach partial truth, or follow me completely. Come to me in the Blessed Sacrament and let me teach you along with my holy priests, messengers, and my church. Do not spend your time with those who teach only partial truth. Say, Jesus I trust in you and I will lead you. Finally, you know how to reach heaven by reception of the sacraments, following my words, and the teachings of my church. It is not your duty to try and guess who will go to heaven or hell. Your job is to proclaim my truth as revealed in my holy word and church. I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy. Again, no one enters my kingdom, without embracing my whole truth. For example, no one in heaven will deny my presence in the Eucharist or my Blessed Mother who is Queen of heaven and earth, no matter what belief they have on earth. You have taken many steps forward, do not go backward or you will not survive the tests coming your way and to this world. Again, let me teach you. Why would you go elsewhere, where I am not present body, blood, soul and divinity? My peace I leave with you and bless you in the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.Your savior and redeemer, Jesus Christ.
     
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  18. Fatima

    Fatima Powers

    Very sad to have priests teaching something so elementary yet they have to put a false narrative to try an appease his congregation.
     
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  19. lynnfiat

    lynnfiat Fiat Voluntas Tua

    Pray for our Priests - it is very sad indeed!
     
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  20. lynnfiat

    lynnfiat Fiat Voluntas Tua

    As I read the above message, it reminded me of what I read today during Adoration in Vol. 15 regarding "seeds":

    “My daughter, my Will is beginning, means and end of every virtue; without the seed of my Will, it cannot be given the name of true virtue. It is like the seed for the plant: after it has sunk its roots into the ground, the deeper they are, the higher the tree becomes, which the seed contains. So, first there is the seed; this forms the roots; the roots have the strength to make the plant sprout from under the earth; and as the roots sink into it, the branches are formed, which keep growing so high as to form a beautiful crown. And this will form the glory of the tree which, unloading abundant fruits, will form the profit and the glory of the one who sowed the seed.

    This is the image of my Church. The seed is my Will, in which She was born and raised. But in order for the tree to grow, it takes time; and in order for some trees to give fruit, it takes the length of centuries - the more precious the plant is, the longer it takes. The same for the tree of my Will which, being the most precious, the most noble and divine, the highest, needed time in order to grow and make its fruits known. So, the Church has known the seed, and there is no sanctity without it; then She has known the branches, but it is always around this tree that She has been turning. Now She must know the fruits in order to nourish Herself and to enjoy them; and this will be all my glory and my crown, as well as of all virtues and of the entire Church."
     
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