Dearest Gracia i could have written your post. I am concerned about this too but I pray daily for the grace of final perseverance. I think we have to trust that Jesus will provide the fortitude at the moment it is needed.
Padraig, In addition to personal loans, I wonder if you are also speaking of loans which countries give to one another which some times end up strangling the nation with the loan. I recently watched the movie No Escape which might simplify this idea but it still has a lot of truth to it.
I think originally in the Middle Ages the Church harking back, I think to the teaching in the Book of Leviticus heavily frowned on taking interest on loans.
I think originally in the Middle Ages the Church harking back, I think to the teaching in the Book of Leviticus heavily frowned on taking interest on loans. Leviticus 25:35-37 If your brother becomes poor and cannot maintain himself with you, you shall support him as though he were a stranger and a sojourner, and he shall live with you. Take no interest from him or profit, but fear your God, that your brother may live beside you. You shall not lend him your money at interest, nor give him your food for profit. Deuteronomy 23:19-20 “You shall not charge interest on loans to your brother, interest on money, interest on food, interest on anything that is lent for interest. You may charge a foreigner interest, but you may not charge your brother interest, that the Lord your God may bless you in all that you undertake in the land that you are entering to take possession of it. Exodus 22:25 “If you lend money to any of my people with you who is poor, you shall not be like a moneylender to him, and you shall not exact interest from him. Luke 6:34-35 And if you lend to those from whom you expect to receive, what credit is that to you? Even sinners lend to sinners, to get back the same amount. But love your enemies, and do good, and lend, expecting nothing in return, and your reward will be great, and you will be sons of the Most High, for he is kind to the ungrateful and the evil. Proverbs 28:8 Whoever multiplies his wealth by interest and profit gathers it for him who is generous to the poor. Psalm 15:5 Who does not put out his money at interest and does not take a bribe against the innocent. He who does these things shall never be moved.
Some people claim that this is only a condemnation of usury of money lending at exorbitant interest. But this is not what Scripture points to , it is clearly against all interest. I think this is because it is to keep us honest and wholesome by relating what we make to how much we work. If there were no interest being made or charged there would for instance be no super rich. No people making a living of interest. it would be a very different world to the one we have now. As I say it would keep us honest. It can be done. Muslims are forbidden by the Q'uran from earning or paying interest and they manageBut the time is coming when money will be worthless anyway. I think this will be a good thing. I hope the next time round the Church sticks to its guns. I think it is also wrong for Nations to charge Nations interest ,what is sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander. It was paying interest got us stuck paying income tax to Government. It was paying interest put us in the grip of the bankers and the Illuminati. A mortgage is simply a badge of slavery. Income tax is licensed robbery.
They had many of the same problems we do today, in fact all of them when one considers it. However, we arrogantly think ourselves better and somehow more intelligent these days. As if this in itself and the perpetual falsehood of progress is somehow our ticket out of God's wish for us both as individuals and a people.
This is very interesting. My sister in law who is Spanish decried the paying of interest when my husband tried to give my brother in law interest in money he had borrowed from him. She staunchly defended her position of never letting someone pay you interest. The hold over from old catholic culture I guess.
Originally Catholics in places like Spain got round the Church prohibition on money lending by using Jews who were not bound by CHurch Law. But eventually they started doing it themselves. It crept in .
I agree with him about Medjugorje but I prefer not to discuss it on the forum because it causes too much angst with those who do believe it to be authentic. The last time I was in Knock, the priest saying Mass said something to the effect that the Pope has given Church approval to Medjugorje but not in so many words. There was a bishop presiding at that Mass. I think what that priest did was disgraceful and the bishop letting him away with it was also a disgrace. We're in serious trouble if a nod and a wink is going to be the Church's means of declaring worthy of belief claims of apparitions by the Blessed Mother. As soon as I have some more time to spare I will be replaying those videos because they had a strong effect on me. Bruno's locutions/dream/prophecies (I don't know what is the correct term) have convinced me to do the consecration to the Immaculate Heart of Mary. That's my no. 1 priority now.
I will forever claim it was the Consecration to the Two Hearts and the living out of that Consecration which has preserved our children in the Faith! Safe in the Refuge of the Immaculate Heart!
The warnings are very grave. http://www.jesusmariasite.org/globa...asy-invasion-of-italy-destruction-in-vatican/
Very interesting parallel, Mario. I was thinking recently how blessed I am that my only child has kept the Faith. Now I can see why. Many years ago, I did the de Montfort consecration. I was blessed to have this child when I was a very much older lady and I was on bedrest for most of the later part of the pregnancy, in dire danger of losing him. Did not know it was a male at the time. Just depressed and scared to death. God won. He keeps winning. This is the only child in the family. What a blessing.
Mac, Thank you for posting this link. The link allows us to easily review the content of the messages given to Bruno Cornacchiola by Our Lady of Revelation.
Thanks, Mac, for posting the link. I'm especially interested in comparing the messages pre- and post-1984 and that website should make it easier. We all need to pray more for our priests because, as pointed out in the sermon, if not us then who will pray for them?
Once we are confirmed and take our first communion together as a family hopefully next Easter the first thing I will be doing is this consecration.
