There is also an interesting sight in a stained-glass window from Strasbourg Cathedral, notice the object at the top and also what the baby Jesus is holding: http://en.strasbourg-europe.eu/.and-in-the-cathedral,41471,en.html The European stained glass window The central bay in the apse of the cathedral contains a stained glass window showing Virgin Mary with outstretched arms, which formerly adorned the banner of the town of Strasbourg. The Child seated on her lap is holding a water lily in his hands. Produced by the master glassmaker Maw Ingrand, it was donated by the Council of Europe in 1956 Look at the object way at the top above Our Lady's head. It's the EU flag depicted in Strasbourg Cathedral's stain glass window, blue surrounded by twelve yellow stars as in the passage from the Apocalypse about the woman clothed with the Sun and a crown of twelve stars on her head. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strasbourg_Cathedral Strasbourg Cathedral or the Cathedral of Our Lady of Strasbourg also known as Strasbourg Minster, is a Roman Catholic cathedral in Strasbourg, Alsace, France. Although considerable parts of it are still in Romanesque architecture, it is widely considered[2][3][4][5] to be among the finest examples of high, or late, Gothic architecture. Erwin von Steinbach is credited for major contributions from 1277 to his death in 1318. The cathedral was hit by British and American bombs during air raids on Strasbourg's center on 11 August 1944, which also heavily damaged the Palais Rohan and the Sainte-Madeleine Church. In 1956, the Council of Europe donated the famous choir window by Max Ingrand, the "Strasbourg Madonna" (see also Flag of Europe Biblical interpretation). Repairs to war damage were completed only in the early 1990s. See: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_Europe#Biblical_interpretation In 1987, following the adoption of the flag by the EEC, Arsène Heitz (1908–89), one of the designers who had submitted proposals for the flag's design, suggested a religious inspiration for it. He claimed that the circle of stars was based on the iconographic tradition of showing the Blessed Virgin Mary as the Woman of the Apocalypse, wearing a "crown of twelve stars".[70][72] The French satirical magazine Le Canard enchaîné reacted to Heitz's statement with an article entitled L’Europe violée par la Sainte Vierge ("Europe Raped by the Blessed Virgin") in the 20 December 1989 edition. Heitz also made a connection to the date of the flag's adoption, 8 December 1955, coinciding with the Catholic Feast of the Immaculate Conception of the Blessed Virgin Mary... An article posted in La Raison in February 2000 further connected the donation of a stained glass window for Strasbourg Cathedral by the Council of Europe on 21 October 1956. This window, a work by Parisian master Max Ingrand, shows a blessing Madonna underneath a circle of 12 stars on dark blue ground.[75] The overall design of the Madonna is inspired by the banner of the cathedral's Congrégation Mariale des Hommes, and the twelve stars are found on the statue venerated by this congregation inside the cathedral (twelve is also the number of members of the congregation's council).[76] http://www.coe.int/en/web/documents-records-archives-information/france 'The window of the Virgin // The central bay of the apse features a magnificent stained glass window of the Virgin Mary with outstretched arms and the infant Jesus sitting on her lap, holding a lily in one of his hands. The image was directly inspired by the banner of the city of Strasbourg. Symbolising peace and reconciliation, it was made by master glass-worker Max Ingrand and was offered to the Cathedral by the Council of Europe in 1956.'
Read: http://cmglobal.org/en/2015/11/28/39386/ Miraculous Medal and the flag of the European Union [Father Fenelón Castillo, from the Province of Colombia, has translated this article from the original French and, on the occasion of the feast of Our Lady of the Miraculous Medal, wishes to share this material with us. Note: At times intellectuals and those in positions of power find themselves affirming things that they did not intend to affirm. Such occurred during the process of selecting the design of the flag for Europe. The design that was ultimately selected has a religious content, but the wise and the powerful were not aware of that reality … we have only recently become aware of that fact through reading the article of Catillon Pierre which was written on December 4th, 2005. ] The flag of Europe In 1987 I was in Lisieux, in front of Carmel and there I met a man who was modestly dressed and he told me: It was I who was requested to design the European flag. I suddenly had the idea of placing on the flag the twelve stars that surround our Lady of the Miraculous Medal … of placing those stars on a background of blue (the color of the Blessed Virgin). My plan was unanimously accepted on December 8th, 1955, the feast of the Immaculate Conception. The name of the designer of the flag is Arsène Heitz and years later he told me his story. The work of Arsène Heitz continued for five years: from 1950-1955. Why five years? Because there were 101 different designs. Everyone had their own idea about this flag: the socialists, the Freemasons, the Jews, the Protestants … Heitz himself presented twenty different designs. Paul M.G. Lévy (the first director of the press for the European Council) was in charge of the selection. Paul M.G. Lévy, a cultured man, did not know how to paint but he knew Arsène Heitz (a very simple man, an employee of the postal service, an artist and a design specialist). Lévy and Heitz were both good Catholics. Naturally, because of the sacrosanct principle of secularism, they had to avoid evoking the religious significance of the twelve stars and the blue background. At that time, the twelve stars did not correspond to the number of member nations... From 1949 to 1955 there were countless discussions, meetings, committees and subcommittees with regard to the design of the flag. Finally, on December 8, 1955, Heitz’s design was chosen unanimously! Paul Levy had foreseen a three-day meeting, scheduled for December 7th, 8th and 9th and during that time a series of designs were to be reviewed. All the documents are dated December 9th, because all the documents were to be signed at the conclusion of the meeting. But everything went so fast and so well that this commission completed its work on December 8th, the day on which the individuals signed the documents. On leaving the room, the son-in-law of Paul Claudel nudged Paul Levy and said: Today is the feast of the Immaculate Conception! Those two individuals unwittingly found the famous Introit for the Feast of the Assumption: A great sign appeared in the sky, a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars (Revelation 12:1). Arsène Heitz, a simple man, spoke about the twelve stars of the Miraculous Medal. Paul Levy, a professor of political economy, made reference to the twelfth chapter of the book of Revelation. Levy was secretly in agreement with the design of Heitz and wanted to see the design become the accepted design … at the same time he had to give the appearance of absolute neutrality. Despite the fact that more than 100 designs were submitted, it was the flag of the Blessed Virgin that ultimately triumphed. And this triumph occurred on December 8th … and no one was aware of that divine coincidence. The European flag is the flag of Our Lady, Queen of Peace! Translated: Charles T. Plock, CM https://agendaeurope.wordpress.com/2015/12/07/60th-anniversary-of-the-europe-flag/ The 12 stars are thus symbols of the twelve tribes of Israel as well as of the twelve Apostles – in other words they stand for the people of God of both the Old and the New Testament. In that way, they are a symbol for the entirety of all Christian nations. Arsène Heitz, who was a devout Catholic, was well aware of this meaning. So were the founding fathers of the EU, Robert Schuman, Konrad Adenauer, Alcide De Gasperi, and Charles de Gaulle. https://books.google.co.uk/books?id...hUCM8AKHYnOCqI4ChDoAQgeMAE#v=onepage&q&f=true "...The Virgin Mary is often represented encircled by a halo of twelve stars, which refers to a passage in Revelation that Catholics interpret as depicting the Virgin as Queen of Heaven: "And a great sign appeared in heaven: a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon was under her feet, and on her head was a crown of twelve stars" (Rev 12: 1). The twelve-star halo also came to be associated with the iconography of the Immaculate Conception, thus figuring prominently in paintings and sculptures across Catholic Europe, in the Baroque period and after. The Council of Europe in 1956 donated to the City of Strasbourg a magnificent stained glass window (Blessing Madonna) for the Cathedral, which depicts the Virgin Mary with a circle of twelve stars on a blue background hovering above her head like a celestial wheel. The flag's religious symbolism took on greater meaning for many who examined its origins. The Belgian Levy was a Jewish Holocaust survivor who converted to Catholicism after World War II. Popular histories sometimes attribute the flag's inspiration to a glimpse Levy once had of the Sun reflecting off the star halo of a statue of the Virgin. That may have increased Levy's support for the circle of stars design, but Heitz was most responsible for the original concept. In interviews later in his life, Heitz - who was, according to one source, a member of the Order of the Medal of the Immaculate Conception - claimed to have taken his inspiration directly from the passage in Revelation. Moreover, the Council of Europe itself seemed to underline the flag's Marian connections. The Council of Ministers voted to adopt the flag one day earlier than originally planned - on December 8, the Feast of the Immaculate Conception..."
So was I. It showed up in the search results on Google but the links didn't work. This one works now: https://www.clubofrome.org/about-us/ When the link to its own website wouldn't work last night, I found another website which seems to be associated with the Club of Rome. Here's a link to the page outlining their history and aims: http://www.mega.nu/ampp/cor.html#1 The .nu extension being new to me, I looked it up and discovered that the .nu domain is owned by Nuie, a tiny island nation off the coast of New Zealand https://www.domainregistration.com.au/news/nu-domain-background.php
Very interesting information everyone, thanks! I have only had time to read through all of this quickly so forgive me if this has been mentioned already, but I saw that people were bandying about the idea that the Great Monarch might be from the U.K. This would make sense even from a purely earthly sense. The British Empire stretched across the entire globe encompassing many lands and people of diverse cultures. Though now gone as a power structure, it still maintains many of the historical and even cultural connections with the lands formerly under it's dominion. Plus it shares a common language with many of those nations too. In addition the British Monarchy still holds a captivation for the rest of the world in the way that no other monarchy does. It might be the perfect nation to pick if one wanted to quickly spread something (like say Catholicism) around the world rapidly. This might be similar to the way that the Roman Empire and road system was used to spread Christianity rapidly in the early years.
Vouthon, I forgot to remind you about my question related to Saint Hildegard and the 3 days of darkness, were you able to find out if she stated anything about this? Some prophecies about the Great Monarch include a war in the Middle East and then uprisings in Europe prior to the reign of the Great Monarch, what is your opinion about this? I forget if you touched on that aspect on the thread. I think that you were planning on going into greater detail about Saint Hildegard's 5 ages. When you have time can you do so? This may help provide the answer to my first two questions here, related to what the world will look like immediately prior to the reign of the Great Monarch. Thank you. I signed off before I read your above post but before doing so I pm'd a friend about our possible revelation, that the Great Monarch may rise from the EU. This is basically what I told my friend: This could be the last piece of the puzzle to the WCWTS sign, I couldn't figure out what the 12 stars for the birth of the Great Monarch represents, it could be the EU. (I am just a silly American who only realized a week ago what the EU's flag looked like and thought to myself 12 stars, hmmm.) For Israel, the 12 stars represent the 12 tribes and everyone will be rebirthed (we are all descendants in one way or another). For the Church, the 12 stars represent the Apostles and the Holy Pope is rebirthed. For Mary (the mother of the RCC, the center of which is situated in Europe), the 12 stars is the EU and the Great Monarch is rebirthed. It could be. I am working off of what Pope Benedict stated that the Woman of Revelation represents, Israel, the Church and Mary. https://www.bing.com/videos/search?...4F276BA162DDB7AC10854F276BA162DDB7A&FORM=VIRE I think it is possible that the great sign from Revelation 12, the Woman Clothed with the Sun, could be pointing to The Warning occurring and we will be rebirthed in a sense, or at a minimum it is pointing to the beginning of the 6th age which Ven. Holzhauser has prophesized about, the Age of the Great Monarch and the Holy Pope (and then a conversion of the Jews to Catholicism). The sign appears on 9/23/17, how long after the sign appears does this period begin I do not know. This, of course, is my theory. Maybe Vouthon can give us some more clues as what to expect before this period begins from what Saint Hildegard has stated and then we can watch for these happenings so we will know better.
Hi Carol, I'm not one for getting hung up on the idea that 'royal' means an actual member of a royal house. To be honest I think this Prince Harry thing is a load of nonsense. I dont even think the GM is English - 'born in exile', remember? Yes, thats what I meant. Read that again, the years shortened like months. So 112 years = 112 months = ~9 years is his 'reign'. Becoming more human with every post, isnt he? (I'll write more later.....)
Or it could be "time in the New Era"......totally different from what or how we measure.....as in that time being "a thousand years" with an understanding elsewhere that a day could be like a thousand years, etc. Could be long but seeming, in such a wonderful New Time, short and not long enough!!
Macadamia, I posted those links because I was aware of that idea. I honestly don't believe that I could figure out who the Great Monarch will be but I am very excited about your idea that he is related to the EU. My focus has been more on whether or not there will in fact be a Great Monarch and a Holy Pope and if so, what will the signs be that we are close to the reign of both. I probably should have thought about the validity of the idea that was put forth in the posts before providing the link here. For those who are trying to determine who the GM is, you have made a could point that it could not be PH or anyone who was not born in exile. (Edited to add: If that prophecy is true and the GM was/will be born in exile.) It appears that you have a good idea of who the GM is, correct? Then you believe this will be happening soon, right? I am not certain about that prophecy which earthtoangels posted but I definitely read it this week on Emmett's site. It states, "The years will be shortened like months, the months like weeks, the weeks like days, the days like hours, and an hour like a moment." So you believe that this is literal, the years will be shortened like months. So if we look at the rest of that prophecy along with one that I posted from Ven. Holzhauser "When everything has been ruined by war...", the age of the GM will be proceeded by war. The first prophecy points to the war in Ezekiel 38/39. I believe this to be highly likely and very soon, unfortunately. What is your opinion of this? I wonder if you can provide some background on the prophecy from Emmett's site. I am still a novice in the study of prophecy and I am not at all familiar with The Latin Tiburtine Sibyl other than what Emmett stated on his site, that it is estimated by scholars to date anywhere between the 4th to 7th centuries AD and it is the earliest reference to a prophecy of the coming of a Great Monarch who would establish an era of peace before the coming of the Antichrist. Thank you.
In terms of the Great Monarch: folks here might be unaware of the fact that Catholics in the Azores (a Portugese overseas territory) - as well as among immigrant Azorean communities in Brazil, California and other places - observe a centuries-old (and partly liturgical) festival in the days leading up to the feastday of Pentecost which, apart from being the most fundamental tradition for Azorean national identity, involves ritually crowning a peasant boy "Emperor" in ceremonial expectation of a future period of peace connected with a special devotion to the Third Person of the Holy Trinity, the Holy Spirit. The customs of this so-called "Cult of the Holy Spirit" (which the Catholic Church in the Azores and among the expatriate communities recognizes liturgically) are said to have been instituted first by Saint Elizabeth of Portugal, a group of Franciscan Friars and the Order of Christ in the early 14th century. They have persisted until the present-day. I have attached some documents relating to it. Read: View attachment 6604 View attachment 6605 View attachment 6606 View attachment 6607 View attachment 6608 View attachment 6609
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See: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cult_of_the_Holy_Spirit The origins of the modern cult and its rituals are not definitively understood. The dominant theory postulates that the celebrations were introduced into Portugal by Queen Elizabeth of Portugal.[4] The cult's principal centre of devotion was in Tomar, which was also the location of the priory of the Order of Christ, charged with the spirituality of newly discovered lands (including the Azores). Another centre was Alenquer, where, in the first years of the 14th century, Queen Elizabeth introduced the first celebration of the Império do Divino Espírito Santo (English: Empire of the Divine Holy Spirit), probably influenced by Franciscan spiritualists, who there founded the first Franciscan Convent in Portugal. From there the cult first spread in Portugal (Aldeia Galega, Alenquer, Sintra, Tomar, Lisbon), and later accompanied the Portuguese during their Atlantic discoveries... The existence of the Irmandades do Divino Espírito Santo (English: Brotherhoods of the Divine Holy Spirit) were first noted in the 16th century. The first hospital constructed in the Azores (1498), under the Santa Casa da Misericórdia of Angra, received its current name, the Hospital do Santo Espírito. The distribution of food (meats, bread, milk) was already an important part of the charity common in the middle of the 16th century. From then on, and in particular after the beginning of the 18th century, the cult of the Holy Spirit assumed a position of importance in Azorean culture, becoming a unifier of the population in the various islands. With Azorean emigration, the cult was transplanted to Brazil, where by the end of the 18th century there existed feast days in Rio de Janeiro, in Bahia, and other zones where Azorean immigrants settled, such as Santa Catarina, Rio Grande do Sul and Pernambuco. In the 19th century, the traditions spread to Massachusetts, Rhode Island, Hawaii, Connecticut and California in the United States, as well as to Ontario, Quebec, and British Columbia in Canada. The Feast of the Empire of the Divine Holy Spirit was also celebrated on board of the naus on their way to Brazil and to India, during the 16th century. In a letter sent to Italy from Goa (India), the Jesuit missionary Fulvio Gregori reports: "The Portuguese used to elect an Emperor by the Feast of Pentecost and it was so also in this ship St. Francisco. Indeed, they chose a boy as Emperor on the eve of Pentecost, in the midst of great pomp. They dressed him very richly and then put on his head the imperial crown. They also chose for him lords and officers at orders, so that the captain was appointed overseer over his house, another gentleman was appointed cupbearer, each with his office at the disposal of the Emperor. Even the officers of the ship joined in, the master, the pilot, etc. Then, on the day of Pentecost (Easter or Holy Spirit), all dressed to perfection, at an altar on the bow of the ship, where there was more space, with beautiful cloths and silverware, they led the Emperor to Mass, with music, drums and courtiers. There he was seated on a chair with velvet cushions, with a crown on his head and a sceptre in his hand, surrounded by his court, to the accompaniment of artillery salvos. The courtiers of the Emperor feasted and then, finally, served everyone here on board, around three hundred people."[5] I think it is significant that there is an entire cult (in the traditional Catholic sense) with its own festival, traditional rituals and liturgical celebration which persists to this day among Azorean Catholics and has to do with the crowning of a peasant man or boy (originally it was a peasant, nowadays any Azorean youngster is eligible to be coronated) as Emperor at Pentecost. In other words, there is a devotional heritage in part of the Catholic world which makes an explicit connection between the crowning as Emperor of a man who is not himself royal and the idea of a new "Pentecost" related to a period of peace, in the sense that: "the faithful seek the fulfillment of religious prophecy that assumes a period of human spiritual development and brotherhood, and in which the Holy Spirit is the fountain of knowledge and order". Read: The origin of the Holy Spirit Festivities among the Portuguese is normally attributed to the much-loved Queen Saint Isabel, the lady of the miracle of bread and roses. In 1282, the Infanta Isabel of Aragon was given in marriage to young King Diniz of Portugal. Isabel, a woman of strong faith and loving heart, withstood the onslaught of her husband's wrath for he did not deem it seemly that the Queen mingle with the poor and dispossessed of the land, among them the often persecuted Sephardic Jews of the Iberian Peninsula. But she, Christian to the marrow would not have any of it and would clothe herself in the attire of poor peasantry, slip out the back doors and take alms to the needy and sick. She used all her royal influence to her to protect the Jews, who later proclaimed her Saint Isabel, Queen of Portugal for her kind and benevolent protection. One day it came to pass that as she was making her way through the palace gardens to the palace gates in an effort to smuggle out bread for the poor in her apron, her husband, the king, crossed her path. "What have you in yon apron, my lady? he inquired. "Nothing, my lord but roses." "Then I would see them" and as Isabel unfurled her apron roses did indeed spill to the ground. The town of Alenquer had long been given to the Queens of Portugal, offering them some economic and socio-political independence from their royal husbands. It was this locality, on her own territory as it were, that Isabel chose to institute the cult to the Holy Spirit. Inspired by the devotion of the Franciscan Order to the Holy Spirit it was here that she chose to found in 1296 a Brotherhood of the Holy Spirit. It is more than likely the Royal couple only initiated the Holy Spirit Festivities after this date. The festival was held on Day of Pentecost. In a solemn ritual full of religious and mystic symbolism known as the império (meaning empire), the King and Queen would outwardly manifest their will to serve their people in the spirit of Christian humility and charity. Mass would be celebrated followed by a procession through the streets of the town, all of which culminating with the crowning of the Emperor and two Kings. The Empire was that of the Spirit, where the lowliest are exalted and the highest humbled. The Emperor and kings would be peasant children, symbols of Innocence, and to whom King and the Queen would relinquish their crowns and royal sceptre, the insignias of temporal power. Three pages and two maids of honour would accompany the Emperor. The young girls would then be presented with dowries by their royal hosts. Then ensued a bullfight (the meat to be subsequently distributed among the poor). The King and Queen then offered their subjects a banquet or bodo where there would be an abundance of bread, cakes, meat and wine for all.
I do not know who this person is or might be, I am only speculating. ...or lengthened like years. I honestly do not know. I believe this to be likely but I have no evidence or information to suggest that it is 'soon'. I have opinions..... and you should take them with a pinch of salt, they are just opinions. Your questions suggest that you are not a novice, they are well structured and take new information into consideration. Your queries suggest that you have an outcome, a result in mind and you are asking me to confirm that for you. I cannot do that. I am not privy to secret information. I cannot heal your pain or support your ideals. I cannot shed light on your beliefs or promise a solution to your problems. I wish I could; for you and for everyone else who posts here. But I'm sorry, I cannot. I only offer interpretation, analyses.
Macadamia, I realize that this is all speculation. We can not be certain that the prophecies are from God or that they have been translated correctly or that they have not been modified over the years. I believe that your speculation is interesting. I think I misinterpreted your statement about a 9 year reign for the Great Monarch and it appeared to me that you may have come to a conclusion about who the Great Monarch might be. It is not my goal to determine who the Great Monarch is. I apologize if you misinterpreted something that I have stated on this thread. The interest that I have in the Great Monarch is to analyze the various prophecies to conclude if such an age will take place and possibly determine what signs we have been given through prophecy to know that this age has begun when and if it does begin. I also realize that my conclusions will probably differ from other's conclusions. IOW, as a group we may never agree on these possible future events. I suppose that the only result I have in mind is that the conflict that is prophesized in Ez38/39 may occur before the age of the Great Monarch , if there is such an age. This of course, is dependent on certain prophecies being true. I am reading certain signs that are occurring in the world which appear to point to this conflict happening in the near future but this is speculation.
Carol55 I remember a Scripture (Not exact quote) "Unless those days be shortened No flesh would be saved" Or another one "The days will be shortened for the sake of the elect" I apologize for not looking up and cross referencing this evening I find that time has speeded up more and more each year I know in my heart it applies to our situation but I do not know why
HH, I got a bit carried away with the "details" in a few posts. There are so many prophecies about the Great Monarch and some contain information which does not appear in any other prophecy, that does not mean that it would not be true but I do prefer looking at the prophecies that appear to be the same from various sources or at least stay with the prophecies that are approved especially those from a doctor of the church like Saint Hildegard. I think that I only have read one that states that the GM is born in exile and only one that states that his reign is 112 years. We can consider these to be true but should keep in mind they that may not be. I expanded on the idea of 112 year reign in relation to the European Union just to see how that would work out but I don't know if that is what is meant by a 112 year reign. Macadamia and earthtoangels made good points that 112 years can be interpreted multiple ways. In any case, it was interesting to look at for a moment but personally I am really more interested in sticking with a more general theme, will there be a GM/HP who usher in an era of peace and what will happen in the world proceeding this era. I find it interesting that Mark Mallett's latest piece discusses the era of peace also, proving that many people are waiting in anticipation of this age. Maybe it is soon , maybe it is not.
@Carol, I owe you an apology for my previous post. I was a little 'under the weather' when I replied. I didnt mean to cut you off, I just dont think people should get too excited about all this. My view is that the GM will do amazing things in the purely earthly domain - reform healthcare or introduce universal free education or sign great trade deals, negotiate ceasefires, that sort of thing. I dont think he will appear 'magic' or perform miracles or anything like that. More a Kennedy or Lincoln or Gandhi or Mandela figure and even then perhaps only in retrospect. I think approved prophecy is fairly clear on this. The unapproved stuff is definitive. This is a tricky one to answer in print in case its misunderstood. Do I know who the GM is - as in its 'Joe Schmo from 123 Main St London' - no. I do not know. Do I know quite a bit about him - yes - I think I know more than I've seen printed on the internet so far. **THIS IS AN EXAMPLE, NOT WHAT I THINK** So.... I might know his height, his nationality and how many kids he has but I dont know his name or anything like that. Yes, I believe the GM will be preceded by a war - at least his rise to the very top will be. He may be a politician or public figure before that, but he will not become the 'Great Monarch' before the war. (He may become GM during the conflict. I'm not sure.) I think this war will occur in several places almost simultaneously - many flashpoints will occur in tandem. We will call it the 'third world war'. After it is won (by the west) the true causes of the war will be revealed and this is when the GM/HP will work in tandem. Yes, that is correct. Although what we read in one sentence could occur across 20 or 30 years. So 'soon' but not 'all at once' - if you get my meaning. Some other random points that I recall - The 'three days darkness' refers to a war/battle of great intensity - as in 'the sky is turned black with smoke'. I read a good interpretation of this but again, I've lost the source. 'The sun rising in the west'; I think I know what this means, but I dont wish to expound on it yet. Again it is a clue to the GMs background. So heres a little bit of fun for you all - 'vexillology is your friend' This guy has a very interesting interpretation of various prophecies pertaining to rev 12 and the chastisement at which time the GM seems to appear He is not approved and likely not Catholic, but interesting nonetheless.
I see Poland on the map but it isn't named in the Northern Europe list. Could the GM be Polish or is Poland too far east to figure in the prophecy? By the way, I have St. Hildegard's book and would welcome your guidance on which of her letters to start reading. Would it be better to ask my questions by private message rather than clutter up this thread with any questions?
Hi Dolours, Generally, I think most of Poland is far too "eastern" to properly count. However Gdansk and the West Pomeranian Voivodship, with its capital Szczecin, lies in Northwest Poland on the Baltic Sea and would definitely qualify. It's Northern Europe, I have no doubt about it. I'm very glad to hear you've acquired the Book of Divine Works. I love the fact that folks are reading St. Hildegard. By all means, send me a PM if you would prefer. Please remind me, if you may, what translation of her Liber that was again? Is it the Fox translation? In terms of the letters, I would begin with: (1) Letter 6 (in that book's chronology) to King Conrad III. It's a succinct little summary of her understanding of the future (2) Letter 25 to Werner of Kircheim and (3) Letter 24 to Philip and the Clergy of Cologne I just recalled that I promised to provide links to her Letters and will do so asap. Her greatest prophetic letter, unfortunately, is not included in that volume: the Letter to the Clergy of Trier but I'm going to quote it in full for folks to read and discuss. Could I recommend some portions of the Divine Works to wade into as well? I would recommend: Vision One: 1 - 3 Vision Four: 105 (first section in Italics only) Vision 10 (this is the prophetic section): 16; 17; 18; 20; 21; 24; 25; 26
While I agree with you that he will be active in the temporal sphere, his primary role is nevertheless to facilitate the Second Pentecost by creating an environment propitious for it to take root. In this respect, his political decisions and structures will foster the necessary framework within which the Church and her missionaries can spread the Gospel to the ends of the earth during a period of peace before the time of Antichrist. Hmm. Could you enlighten me a little more here, as to how you have come to acquire the information on this figure's identity that you believe yourself to posses? I am somewhat mystified, I have to say (and with all due respect!), that you could claim to have such an intimate portrait of his identity. How exactly would one know any of this over and above the approved revelations, which themselves are rather oblique and certainly do not go into the minutiae of detail about this purported person's private life as you seem to hint in the above? I know of no credible prophecy which refers to his height or how many children he has, for instance, nor would this be relevant for an approved prophet to predict imho. I can think of no objective criteria in the literature which would warrant so specific a designation of the GM's identity as you provide in the above, so it is incumbent upon me to enquire further, in terms of what grounds you have for believing as you do? Why do you say that you "might" know his height and how many kids he has? But not his name? If one is so well informed about somebody, to be privy to such details, then they must surely be personally acquainted with them and/or at least know their name, I would think? And as stated, I'm not sure how that would be possible based upon the opaque references in various approved private revelations. There is not much, if any, scope for specification afforded. If you could enlighten me further as to your understanding on this, I would very much appreciate it.
I can see from many replies that this will be a surprise but...... bear in mind that this person may not know or care about this duty; or it might be a burden to him. People need to actually think about this stuff, not just read it rote off a page. I think I've already pointed out that a fresh reading of existing prophecy - free from imposing our own personal wishes - gives a broader picture. I am mystified too since I have repeatedly and expressly said I do NOT have such intimate information! Unfortunately, even though I specifically said in caps etc that I do NOT know this information you have picked up on it.... I believe I know 'quite a bit' about this person because I read the prophecies with obviously different eyes than many I have seen to date. If you read Emmets recent piece where he mentions the 'fractal' nature of things, thats the way I look at the prophecies. In simpler terms, many prophecies have two or more meanings. Thus - as discussed earlier - the 'Limp' may refer both to physical and spiritual characteristics. I cannot see the difficulty in comprehending this; have I not made it explicit in my previous posts? One would read the prophecy without prejudice and have knowledge of other areas such and be open to other interpretations. Let me give you an example - I will provide an interpretation later so that you will understand how I think; (I'm fairly sure this has not been discussed elsewhere but feel free to contradict me) What could 'He will be crowned three times' mean? I think the prophecies are well-judged, nuanced, specific and detailed enough to identify this person - otherwise why make them? Taking your assumption then would suggest that the GM cannot be identified by approved prophecy, thus rendering the prophecy, the prophet, the approving agency and the Inspiration null and void?!?!? It follows then that you must take one of two positions; the GM can or cannot be identified from approved prophecies. If you decide he cannot you place yourself outside the church. If you decide he can...... Now...what could 'crowned 3 times' mean? (there are hints in my previous posts) ;D
